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Tyoka Oct 9 '12 8:35am

Shapeshifting in pathfinder
 
Although I could go on for pages in a polymorph-based argument, I would like to avoid that for this thread. Instead, I was wondering if someone could help me. I'm wanting to create a shapeshifter, preferably as a sorcerer or bard. However, I can't find any shapeshifting abilities in pathfinder that are anything more that Bull's Strength with natural armor tacked on.

Thematically, I find shapeshifting attractive because it creates a character who is seemingly weak and defenseless, and who is completely reliant on the shapeshifting in order to defend himself. Is there anything like this in pathfinder?

noobiegameplayer Oct 9 '12 10:27am

Hi Tyoka,

I think the only true shapeshifter (other than Druid at level 4) is Ranger with Shapeshifter archetype ;(

I'm sure that others will correct me with things like Synergist, and alchemist variants and non-paizo books, but I think what you have effectively asked doesn't exist except for those two I have listed above ...

Sorry,

NGP

Cthulhu Oct 9 '12 1:50pm

If your DM allows psionics then you might want to check out Psionics Unleashed. The psion egoist later delving into the Metamorph prestige class is a pretty competent shapechanger.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed

Kurobara Oct 9 '12 8:30pm

If I get what you're thinking about, you should make a sorcerer and take the shapes and forms spell.

Here are those I found
Beast
Vermin
Plant
Dragon
Giant

Tyoka Oct 9 '12 9:29pm

Thanks all, but it looks like noobiegameplayer is right, it doesn't exist. =(

Grand Moff Vixen Oct 11 '12 12:35am

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Originally Posted by Tyoka (Post 6164515)
Although I could go on for pages in a polymorph-based argument, I would like to avoid that for this thread. Instead, I was wondering if someone could help me. I'm wanting to create a shapeshifter, preferably as a sorcerer or bard. However, I can't find any shapeshifting abilities in pathfinder that are anything more that Bull's Strength with natural armor tacked on.

Thematically, I find shapeshifting attractive because it creates a character who is seemingly weak and defenseless, and who is completely reliant on the shapeshifting in order to defend himself. Is there anything like this in pathfinder?

The best thing I can think of is the Kitsune. This would leave you to choose the class you want while giving you the option of having good shapeshifting abilities. If you were wanting better bonuses while shifted I wouldn't know much about that.

dystmesis Oct 11 '12 3:20am

Synthesist Summoner is what you're looking for

Tyoka Oct 11 '12 4:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dystmesis (Post 6171715)
Synthesist Summoner is what you're looking for

YOU SIR... are a gentleman and a scholar, and have my vote for 2012. Thank you, I think this will work very well indeed.

noobiegameplayer Oct 11 '12 8:10am

Synthesist Summoner is good as long as you don't want to play Pathfinder Society where it has recently been put on the banned class archetype list ...

But if that works for you, good stuff -- that dystmesis -- he's genius (even if he does keep trying to kill my innocent little witch ... boo hoo)

Tyoka Oct 11 '12 9:29am

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recently been put on the banned class archetype list ...
...what the actual f***. Is Paizo SO afraid of shapeshifting that they would take a class feature that only weakens the original class and ban it just because it's reminiscent of the DREEEEAAADED polymorph?

Hide your children! A 7th level wizard is spending one of his most powerful spells to turn into an owlbear! The RP community is surely going to collapse this time! Quick, call the blessed factotums! They're are only hope for an original and compelling character!


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