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paladinred Oct 23 '12 9:19am

Familiars
 
I have a question that I cannot find the answer to regarding familiars, do they gain feats and skill points as they increase in power?

Bbender Oct 23 '12 9:38am

I don't think so:
Quote:

Originally Posted by srd
For each skill in which either the master or the familiar has ranks, use either the normal skill ranks for an animal of that type or the master’s skill ranks, whichever are better. In either case, the familiar uses its own ability modifiers. Regardless of a familiar’s total skill modifiers, some skills may remain beyond the familiar’s ability to use.


Kerim Oct 23 '12 9:41am

Though nothing has ever been stated against having them gain feats.

Tedronai Oct 23 '12 9:45am

Familiars do not gain feats or skill points beyond those that they start with. This is because they do not actually gain Hit Dice, but rather are merely treated as having a number of HD dependant on their master's level.
As Bbender pointed out, though, they are treated as having skill points that do increase, save only that those skill points are spent precisely as those of their master and overlap rather than stack with the familiar's own skill points.

paladinred Oct 23 '12 10:46am

Thanks guys, it just seemed strange that they are given benefits and skills but are not allowed to advance them separately.

Tedronai Oct 23 '12 10:58am

If it's a priority for you, get yourself a Psicrystal, instead. They do gain actual HD, and the feats and skill points of their own to spend that accompany them.

paladinred Oct 23 '12 11:39am

Are those the psions use? not sure if just anyone can have them, there is a feat that lets you change your familiar for an animal companion is that the same scenario or do they gain skill points and feats?

Tedronai Oct 23 '12 12:01pm

Psicrystals are obtained by means of a feat (with a prerequisite of 'Manifester level 1st') and themselves advance as a product of all of their masters' levels in psionic classes.

Bbender Oct 23 '12 1:42pm

An animal companion gains additional skill points and feats for bonus HD as normal for advancing a monster’s Hit Dice.

Whisper Oct 23 '12 2:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladinred
Are those the psions use? not sure if just anyone can have them

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedronai (Post 6216920)
Psicrystals are obtained by means of a feat (with a prerequisite of 'Manifester level 1st') and themselves advance as a product of all of their masters' levels in psionic classes.

Psicrystal Affinity, to be precise.
Psicrystals benefit from manifesting classes, like the Psion.


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