The experience still felt real, however, to the point that I still have a phobia of needles from it 30 years later. So on some level it was real, because it had a very real impact, it just wasn't physical world-real.
Originally Posted by silveroak
From a shamanic perspective, the physical world is but one sphere of reality. A shaman will claim that there are other layers that may be explored. It's one reason why the argument about measurement is somewhat absurd to me, because in requiring a measurement within the physical realm you're automatically discounting the possibility of other spheres of existence that cannot be measured by a purely physical device. We may someday possess the ability to measure an alternate sphere enough to scientifically accept that such a thing exists, but I don't think we currently have such technology.
Skeptics will refuse to accept that such a thing exists until it can be proven scientifically, and that's fine. But it's close-minded to state that such a thing could not possibly exist, and to not study the (admittedly faulty) evidence that does exist that measures to some degree such possibilities.
For instance, were someone to conduct a study of people who, in their early pubescence, reported abduction experiences and discovered from that study that 40% of participants reported somewhat similar phenomena (rooms and corridors that felt real, but didn't perfectly mirror physical reality) and a substantive phobia that lasted into adulthood and resisted advanced therapeutic treatment, that would be an interesting finding. It wouldn't prove the existence of alien abduction, but it could indicate that something
might be going on, and that further study might prove to be of interest. It might even develop that, while those 40% reported phobias were untreatable by standard therapies, 60% of those cases did receive a higher degree of relief from non-traditional therapies based in, say, shamanic practice (which does claim to be able to access ailments from a sideways perspective).
It's easy to scoff, but modern science is full of things that were wholly immeasurable and impossible until someone purposefully or accidentally measured it enough to see a possibility that then became probability. As we develop our ability to measure things, we discover things we never before thought possible. Some scientists accept the possibility of other dimensions; it hardly seems far-fetched to claim that one of the reasons we can't measure some stuff is because our tools of measurement are still limited to the dimensions in which we are currently fluent.