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US Citizenship Test

   
I will not be using the @ function to point at certain arguments this morning.


The United States(hence forth called U.S.A) is one that largely does not legally allow dual citizenship, even if sometimes that law is lax or ignored if someone is from the UK, Israel , Canada and the like. U.S.A , is otherwise a style of imperialism that we have found works much better then having an army everywhere; our cultural might does the work instead. This both functions from immigrants that move here and then send stuff back to their place of origin, being thought of by some as a highest place of freedom, being a world power, and "policing the world" .

It is not mean for a country to say, okay you want to join us then you need to say good bye to your last country . We have 5 year visas if you are here to only get a education or long term visit. It really is not something that is horrible or such, think of it as sort of a boot camp that you see common within our country .

You learn about the U.S.A, you devote yourself to it, then you use your new found rights to say how horrible a country we are, or show a gushing fountain of pride in being an american citizen. I see both happen bunches, rarely do I see someone just be middle of the road, it takes a long time to get citizenry and good amount of energy and money.

As a closing argument I will say also, U.S.A has a very strong streak of self power and interdependence. While some countries view us as flag waving morons that put to much value in our country and a society that is now behind in the times. Largely as a country we work on chest beating moral compass and self imagined value. We are very aware some other countries do not like us, or may not like our way of thinking.

We just don't care.

@Solaris: There's no way I can remember a list that long as well as the associated dates. I leave remembering arrays like that to the computer. Sure I can program an array and make it so that the user can call from it, edit it, etc. but that's another matter.

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Originally Posted by silverwolfer View Post
The United States(hence forth called U.S.A) is one that largely does not legally allow dual citizenship, even if sometimes that law is lax or ignored if someone is from the UK, Israel , Canada and the like.

[snip] it takes a long time to get citizenry and good amount of energy and money.
As someone who is currently getting his dual citizenship for the US I can tell you that you are mistaken. As a matter of fact I've had a much harder time justifying a dual citizensghip to my native country (Germany), than the US which accepted my application without further ado. Neither is getting an american citizenship that difficult, at least compared to other developed countries (Europe, Australia, or Japan for example). Taking into account the Green Card system and the ease of getting student visas, the US actually has a very progressive and open immigration policy.

...and that loyalty question on the test is really just a formality, that's asked by every country in some form or manner.

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Originally Posted by bandersnatch View Post
...and that loyalty question on the test is really just a formality, that's asked by every country in some form or manner.
I was wondering about this. It just seemed like so much BS that other countries never ask their immigrants to pledge their loyalty therefore making the US a imperialist monster.

The issue isn't one of swearing loyalty, but of forswearing loyalty.

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Originally Posted by bandersnatch View Post
As someone who is currently getting his dual citizenship for the US I can tell you that you are mistaken. As a matter of fact I've had a much harder time justifying a dual citizensghip to my native country (Germany), than the US which accepted my application without further ado. Neither is getting an american citizenship that difficult, at least compared to other developed countries (Europe, Australia, or Japan for example). Taking into account the Green Card system and the ease of getting student visas, the US actually has a very progressive and open immigration policy.

...and that loyalty question on the test is really just a formality, that's asked by every country in some form or manner.
Some countries don't allow dual citizenship at all or allow you to enlist in a foreign military. There's a case of a British Army veteran from Botswana who is facing 30 years in jail if deported for a traffic offence.

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Originally Posted by bandersnatch View Post
As someone who is currently getting his dual citizenship for the US I can tell you that you are mistaken. As a matter of fact I've had a much harder time justifying a dual citizensghip to my native country (Germany), than the US which accepted my application without further ado. Neither is getting an american citizenship that difficult, at least compared to other developed countries (Europe, Australia, or Japan for example). Taking into account the Green Card system and the ease of getting student visas, the US actually has a very progressive and open immigration policy.

...and that loyalty question on the test is really just a formality, that's asked by every country in some form or manner.

I stand corrected, how are you enjoying your time in the US compared to Germany?

What a silly question is that anyway. It is more an English reading test than a US citizen test. Someone might conceivably think answer 1 is correct, but nobody who understands the question, and the purpose of the test, would answer 3 or 4.

It's like when you travel to the US and you have to answer some questions about who packed your luggage and whether you left your luggage unattended. The correct answers are "me" and "no", regardless of the actual situation. I admire how these guys can keep asking such questions with a straight face.

Come on:
"Name one war fought by the US in the 1900s"
d: The war of 1802

This test is really ludicrously easy. I got 73/96 and I don't consider myself particularly educated on US history or politics. I had to guess regularly, but could usually rule out two of four answers, because they made no sense.

I also wonder who would answer "socialist" or "communist" on the question about the economic system, or that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour in 2001...

"Freedom to disobey traffic laws" cracked me up

The only thing this test does is eliminate people who do not understand English or cannot read.

With respect to: "Who packed your luggage?" "Me." "Did you leave it unattended?" 'No."

It's so if you get caught with anything you shouldn't, you're in serious trouble. Either you packed it and you are then responsible for it which means you're in serious trouble, or you made a false declaration to the officer, and you're in trouble.
Either way, you're in trouble.




 

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