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Yeah that's pretty much the reason. Makes sense. Wonder how many registrations it would take for the site to go independent....

Why doesn't mythweavers have a patreon again?

No I'm serious.

https://www.patreon.com/sawfang

You can't say it's against patreon rules or something, because there's a person that I just linked that is actually using mythweaver sheets and resources to make their videos of running D&D games to pull in money.

If you just made mythweavers a company and established in the signup EULA that our games can be used as examples to promote the site's "output"....

And you can't even argue that you'd lose Patreon rights if you got off the ad support and then allowed adult content. Winged Cloud pulling in 10k a month making ecchi anyone?

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Originally Posted by Cyber_Goddess View Post
Yeah that's pretty much the reason. Makes sense. Wonder how many registrations it would take for the site to go independent....

Why doesn't mythweavers have a patreon again?
Myth-weavers already has a system regarding user support.

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Originally Posted by Dreadwave View Post
Myth-weavers already has a system regarding user support.
Which clearly isn't doing it's job for some reason. With the insane amount of people on the site, if everyone active at this very moment (around 10000 people) gave $5 a month, mythweavers would pull in almost 50k a month.

Ironically the reason I don't register for community is because it wouldn't get me anything I want. Unless the day comes where I'm rich enough to cut a deal with the mods to support the site in exchange for telling the advertising company to leave, I'm pretty sure that any money I give them, is not going to lead to any major changes to the site that I desire.

Now if there was a patreon that had listed reward amounts and said something like "when we make $15,000 a month, we'll cut all ads from the site so adult content will be allowed", I might be more willing to place some money down. At least then there's an actual promise listed, not just "trust us we're using your money wisely, just don't ask to see the books."

Let's see, I think this is what our Admin was going for when he envisioned the community support.

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I’ve decided to open financial contribution toward the site through a Community Supporter subscription at just $36 a year - the price of a coffee (~$3) each month. My pie-in-the-sky goal is to work for Myth-Weavers full time. While that may not be possible yet, every contribution helps, and every hour I don’t have to otherwise hustle making a living is an extra hour I can spend adding features, widening support for more game systems, fixing bugs, improving performance and stability, and working to grow the Myth-Weavers community.

By becoming a Community Supporter, you are directly funding further development of the site. For your support, you’ll get a few perks - ads will go away (except in the sheets alpha, for now, removing them is going to take a little more rooting around), and you and your players (if you’re a GM) will get early access to the features you are making possible. GMs who are Community Supporters will not have to wait for changes to their game’s name, system, or setting, they’ll happen immediately. Your sheets will only ever be soft deleted, and you’ll get an interface to retrieve them if there’s an accidental deletion. Even more perks are in the brainstorming stage, but coming up with them is proving a little hard... we already provide for free what other PbP sites charge for!

You can make your contribution using either Stripe or Paypal - cards are accepted. Please contact me immediately if there is any sort of problem with a payment.

Become a Community Supporter

As always, Myth-Weavers is dedicated to providing our services and tools free of charge, and to having an egalitarian player base. We will never be a pay-only site. Community Supporters bear no special markings or icons denoting any sort of special status. We don't want to create an environment where some members would get preferential treatment in game ads, for example, and anything clearly visible would do that.
You'll have to ask the mods if anything has changed since that thread was made.

Alright. Let's pick this apart then at the risk of ticking people off.

"1. I’ve decided to open financial contribution toward the site through a Community Supporter subscription at just $36 a year - the price of a coffee (~$3) each month. My pie-in-the-sky goal is to work for Myth-Weavers full time. While that may not be possible yet, every contribution helps, and every hour I don’t have to otherwise hustle making a living is an extra hour I can spend adding features, widening support for more game systems, fixing bugs, improving performance and stability, and working to grow the Myth-Weavers community."

1. Define: "Work for myth-weavers full time", this requires two things since you're treating it as a business, the ability to support the business and the ability to support yourself. But what does a. The site cost and b. Your 'drawings' cost. If the site costs 10k a year to run, but you expect people to support you with an upper class lifestyle of 75k a year profit before you pull the ads, I don't think that's going to happen.

Hence why I said "don't ask to look at the books" sarcastically. We have NEVER been given any hard numbers of the kind of money we need to raise to pull this off. We have no estimates. Which a Patreon account would give us. It would give us a target rather than people being skeptical that the site is already supported and the Admin is just pocketing the extra money from ads. We need a paper trail.

"2. By becoming a Community Supporter, you are directly funding further development of the site. For your support, you’ll get a few perks - ads will go away (except in the sheets alpha, for now, removing them is going to take a little more rooting around), and you and your players (if you’re a GM) will get early access to the features you are making possible. GMs who are Community Supporters will not have to wait for changes to their game’s name, system, or setting, they’ll happen immediately. Your sheets will only ever be soft deleted, and you’ll get an interface to retrieve them if there’s an accidental deletion. Even more perks are in the brainstorming stage, but coming up with them is proving a little hard... we already provide for free what other PbP sites charge for!"

2. 'Ads will go away': Ad Block. 'Early Access to features': Look I don't like paying to Beta test videogames, and I'm not going to pay to beta test this site. 'Not have to wait for changes to their game's name, system, or setting': It takes like 2 days tops for the request to go through. How impatient are these people. 'Sheets will only ever be soft deleted': This could be useful, but it's not insanely hard to rebuild a sheet, accidents are the only major thing. 'Even more perks are in the brainstorming stage': Interesting, and those would be what? It's been two years.

3. 'You can make your contribution using either Stripe or Paypal - cards are accepted. Please contact me immediately if there is any sort of problem with a payment.'

And Patreon is this boogyman that we can't use why? I don't even know what Stripe is, but I know that Patreon is a trusted site that pulls in tons of money, because it's a WELL KNOWN AND PUBLIC SITE.

Just saying, if Winged Cloud making literal softcore porn can pull in six figures, I seriously question why mythweavers is so against making a Patreon that would actually let us get some kind of figures and targets and such, along with the ability to see how much money is being put into it.

Hell you know what. Screw Winged Cloud. Cypress Zeta is pulling over $4500 a month, making RPG Maker games. Patreon is clearly really good at pulling in money from all kinds of sources. You make one, you make a high quality piece of work like this site, and because people trust Patreon, money rolls in!

$4500 * 12 = $54000 a year. Unless Mythweavers has the most expensive server ever, I would be amazed if it got trumped by a novice indie dev making that kind of material. (Hint it's the kind of material you don't allow due to Ads).

And you can't even say that it's because Mythweavers is free, no one will support it. NONE of Cypress Zeta's games have been sold. They're all free to download, and people still give money!

I think word filter doesn't give you license to say whatever you want. You can't steal but they still put security tags on cloths and such. It's there help assist in keeping bad language away from others, not to allow it's usage.

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Originally Posted by Martdon View Post
I think word filter doesn't give you license to say whatever you want. You can't steal but they still put security tags on cloths and such. It's there help assist in keeping bad language away from others, not to allow it's usage.
I was more testing the infernal tag to see what happened. Hence why I used "bloody" and not an actual swear word.

All I know, is that once I'm done my degree, I am so making a patreon and making a deal with a friend of mine to do a counter monkey style web series. I'll do the writing and bookkeeping, he'll do the acting. He's planning on doing a let's play channel anyways once he gets everything ready.

It'll be fun to see what cash we can make off of my games on this site.

Who knows, maybe I'll be able to go full time via myth-weavers before the admin?

I think, regardless of the economic implications and profanity decisions, it is a testament to the moderators and the site itself that anyone - anyone - is apparently welcome here, regardless of his or her proclivities and beliefs. It's a good thing, even when it's almost mind-boggling.

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Originally Posted by Raistlinmc View Post
I think, regardless of the economic implications and profanity decisions, it is a testament to the moderators and the site itself that anyone - anyone - is apparently welcome here, regardless of his or her proclivities and beliefs. It's a good thing, even when it's almost mind-boggling.
Oh I'm not judging them for that. Quite frankly with the kind of stuff I've pulled I'm glad for their mercy. I'm just saying, even if you don't want to remove the ads to keep the site Pg-13....

Just do a patreon! Seriously! I see no reason why it would fail! If it fails I have no idea what to tell you, other than "I don't want to live on this planet anymore". Seriously as much as I enjoy things of the lustful nature, I am still constantly baffled by the kind of cash Winged Cloud pulls in.

I just....there must be a reason I'm missing that's super obvious, but I cannot for the life of me tell you what it is. People make all kinds of things on patreon, to the point that one guy is literally just livestreaming D&D games and using mythweavers resources to do it all.

Even if you don't remove the ads, which you're totally in the right to not do. Why CAN'T you do a patreon? You're telling me people will support an indie dev making 'those' kind of games with a SINGLE RPG maker game under his belt to the point he pulls in 50k a year, but they won't support this site!? I find that....MADNESS.




 

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