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Originally Posted by Phuse
There aren't any. Isnt that what we've been trying to say? Seriously, you need to keep up here.
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That's what you and I are saying, yes. Some may disagree. More importantly, why is Fox being singled out for banning (as opposed to filing suit against them for their lies - and then filing suit against every other American news station)? I'm thinking it's on account of the lies they're selling are ones the Canadian government doesn't like being told. This goes nowhere good.
All I ask is that people put at least as much effort into their decisions on voting that they do their decisions to buy a car or house. You don't need to be an expert on the subject, but you should at least investigate the sources whenever you see something that strikes you as being odd. The fact that people
don't, the fact that people accept what they see and read without question, that disgusts me. Be skeptical. Question everything. Trust nothing. You know, like the journalists are
supposed to be, instead of being the mouthpieces for one party or the other.
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Originally Posted by Savayan
So why then are you championing Fox New's ability to lie to the public?
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What can I say? When I say freedom of the press is an absolute, I mean it. Prosecute them for each individual act of lying. Throw the book at them if and when they lie but refuse to run a retraction. But to ban them outright goes nowhere good. It establishes all manner of
bad precedent. How can anyone who values freedom defend this? I wouldn't care what station it is - I don't watch cable news, it's a load of garbage - but to block someone (or something) for lying paves the way for all manner of... unpleasantness.
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Originally Posted by Savayan
The CBC is usually pretty good, the BBC even better. I'm not saying they don't make mistakes. But they'll run retractions if they do, and they don't really have much of an ideology, at least when presenting the news. In the US, as I recall CBS is in a similar boat to the Broadcasting Corps. Al Jazeera is actually pretty good too. It does have its biases, especial in the editorials, but when reporting on actual events in the Middle East and Northern Africa I've found it to be more reliable than most western broadcasters.
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CBS, NBC, MSNBC, they're all as bad or worse than Fox News with the skewing of facts or outright fabrications. Remember Walter Cronkite, how the station itself resisted until the story had hit the blogosphere and Fox?
And having
actually been involved with some of Al-J's stories... they're not nearly as accurate as they've led you to believe. By the same logic used with Fox, Canada ought to ban Al-Jazeera and pretty much every single American news station.
But yes, the BBC has the reputation for being honest.
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Originally Posted by Savayan
...though even critical thinking seems to be becoming anathema on your end of the spectrum.
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*Facepalm*
Of course. The only way two people can disagree is if one is an unthinking baboon. Why do I even bother? I'm gonna just go back to debating with Phuse and ignore the peanut gallery, m'kay?