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US Citizenship Test

   
I think it'd be unlikely, but I could envision the hypothetical case of a free-agent/sabateur as a sort of 'double-agent' not affiliated with any actual 'organization B' but working within 'organization A' under false pretenses in order to subtly undermine its objectives, whether that be for personal gain or for some perceived societal betterment.

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Originally Posted by Bbender View Post
Come on:
"Name one war fought by the US in the 1900s"
d: The war of 1802

This test is really ludicrously easy. I got 73/96 and I don't consider myself particularly educated on US history or politics. I had to guess regularly, but could usually rule out two of four answers, because they made no sense.

I also wonder who would answer "socialist" or "communist" on the question about the economic system, or that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour in 2001...

"Freedom to disobey traffic laws" cracked me up

The only thing this test does is eliminate people who do not understand English or cannot read.
I got 84 out of 96. Not bad for someone who even hasn't been to the US.

In the long run presumably answer "mixed economy" would reflect the case more precisely

If I had to complain about a loaded ideologically question I'd say:

"What is one reason colonists came to America?" The right answer according to the key is "freedom". Why more important motivation, like becoming richer, was ignored?


My country accepts duals citizenship. However, in the past there was a problem - we had compulsory military enrolment and we prosecuted Polish citizens who served in foreign armed forces. (that was law according to the books, in practice if such service in foreign army was compulsory it was unofficially tolerated)

Because the Pilgrims came to America seeking freedom to practice their religion, not to get rich. The 'get rich' crowd came later, after people started figuring out that there was money to be made in the New World.

Actually, the 'get rich' crowd came first, to Virginia. They were seeking gold but had to settle for growing tobacco.

Yep, Virginia was the place to get rich. Tobacco sold for good money. Of course, there was a pretty high death rate due to disease and other hazards, and if you wanted to find a lady you generally had to rent (at least in the early stages), but as a place for a young man to get rich, there weren't many places better.

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Originally Posted by TW Teczka View Post
"What is one reason colonists came to America?" The right answer according to the key is "freedom". Why more important motivation, like becoming richer, was ignored?
Economic freedom can be both really. I read a copy of the letter my Great*4 Grandfather wrote talking about his decision to come to America. He was a bakers apprentice but wanted to buy some land and do his own thing. He wanted more opportunity than was available to him in Holland. He came to Indiana, built and ran a tavern in Lafayette and expanded into some apartment buildings. He was never rich or anything but he was able to pick his own path and do his thing. He didn't come to get rich, he came because he had the freedom to be what he wanted to be.

"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism." -Teddy Roosevelt, 1915.

Full speech can be found here. http://www.hornmouthpiece.com/Americanism.htm

A diverse nation, such as the US, ought to be open to a lot of differences in its population, but can rightfully expect that those differences exist under a new American identity. A fair trade if you ask me, otherwise we risk having some serious sectarian divisions.

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How can you be loyal to two countries?
It's all relative. Loyalty could mean just obeying laws, being nice to strangers, and not being incendiary to whatever current political issues arise or too far out there socially (whatever it is that makes crowds of people uncomfortable).

Bah ... I'm from Australia ... if we don't like people trying to get in, we ship them to a tiny little island in the Pacific and say, "There you go, that's Australian territory, welcome to Austraila" and then leave them there to fend for themselves

The US test is so easy it's not funny ... most of it can be learnt from watching TV (and listening to gunslinging, war mongering Texans) ...

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Originally Posted by kenas View Post
"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism." -Teddy Roosevelt, 1915.
Yah, wake up and smell the roses ... that was 1915 before the first World War -- things have changed mate

And anywhere you go in the world, ex-pats will tend to congregate.

In pretty much every major city in the world there is a "China Town", a "Little Italy", "Little Poland" etc

Not everyone wants to be a big fat hot dog eating, beer swilling idiot ... some want to retain their identity of where they are from.

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Originally Posted by kenas View Post
A diverse nation, such as the US, ought to be open to a lot of differences in its population, but can rightfully expect that those differences exist under a new American identity. A fair trade if you ask me, otherwise we risk having some serious sectarian divisions.
You don't think there isn't already sectarian divisions in the US?? So is everyone a Catholic ?? A jew ?? A prodestant ??

Sectarian issues are very rarely Nationalistic and most of the times Idealogic.

I'll give you an example: Say you lived in Chicago for twenty years, then you move to Miami -- do you stop supporting the Cubbies, the Bulls, the Blackhawks ??

Of course you don't ... you take them with you in your heart and head -- and then have banter with your new Miami workmates when you play them in something.

And that's just national ...

So peeps that come from another country won't stop supporting their own country in sport, politics, etc

I've been living in the UK for 12 years, I'm an Aussie -- I would never back any UK team over Australia ... NEVER !!!!

But I do support British teams when they're playing another country.

It's not about loyalty, it's about respect ...

Noobie





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