I concur on
Supergirl, the only "Arrowverse" TV show, I think, that actually improves year after year (at least for the first three seasons, we'll see where the fourth lands). —I'll set aside the odd case of
Legends of Tomorrow, that didn't so much "improved" as... recognized itself for a lost cause and gunned for a self-conscious "so bad it's good" comedy approach.—
A few years back I would've agree with your general assertion that
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It seems to be a theme with a lot of newer DC stuff in general that they're going for a darker, grittier tone.
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Clearly they were eager to replicate the success of Nolan's "Dark Knight" trilogy. Things are more diverse again now, I'd say.
But the problem for me is not so much about being "dark" or not. The main problem of
Man of Steel and
Batman v Superman (I couldn't bring myself to suffer the vision of
Justice League) isn't that they're grim. But that grimness is out of character for Superman. And then they had to make Batman even ten times darker and edgier for contrast's sake. And even there, maybe, maybe a good filmmaker could've make something of it... but all that happens in movies that were generally horrifically badly written (there are more plot-holes in
Man of Steel than there is actual plot!) and horrifically badly directed.
On the other hand, I think that a "grim and gritty"
Suicide Squad movie —as was originally intended— could have work... but as this point DC/Warner was all "aaw, our movies underperfom, it must be because they're grimmer than Marvel's, quick, let's add neon colors and goofy humor, that will solve all!!"... and the result of this hasty, late-minute makeover, was, predictably, a mess.