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7 hours ago, Blue Jay said:

As far as I can tell, Deadly Agility is not on either of the two sites we allow you to use.

And just to clear, when someone says "SRD", they're referring to the official System Reference Document. The website you're pulling from (www.d20pfsrd.org) is not an official Paizo website: it's run by the Open Gaming Network, whose entire mission is apparently to aggregate RPG content that isn't protected by US copyright laws.

Allowing content on merit alone sounds wonderful, until you're the person who has to do the actual evaluations. It's a lot of work. I know players will be disappointed when our decisions sometimes seem arbitrary, but the bottom line is that we just can't be reviewing content from all across the internet. We have to limit the scope of things somehow, for our own sanity.

We're all adults with adult jobs that take up most of our time. For example, I work on a research farm, and I have a 30-minute commute. When I get home, I have 2 kids and other things to deal with at home. And, I run a real-life 5e campaign on Tuesday nights. So I only have a couple hours a day that I can spend on RFT. So far, this post has taken me 30 minutes to write. I still have 3 missions to update, 2 new character submissions waiting for reviews, and at least two or three content requests in this thread that I haven't gotten to yet; and I've already used up a quarter of my RFT time for today.

So as moderators, we have a vested interest in limiting the amount of content we allow, and restricting by source or publisher is just really convenient for us. I would love to allow other sources, because there's cool stuff everywhere, and stuff that I'd love to try out myself. I even have a spreadsheet where I went ahead of the RLA people and reassigned LAs on my own for every monster in all official sources that I have access to (there are over 4000 entries on the sheet). I would love to offer that for RFT. I would love to use books like Bastards and Bloodlines or Advanced Bestiary (both from Green Ronin), and to put out some RLAs for those; but it's just a whole lot of work, and it's not easy anymore, now that I'm a grown-up with a grown-up job.

This thing where we review individual Pathfinder feats is our way of trying to limit the flow of unfamiliar content. I doubt that it will be sustainable for us in the long run, because individual feat reviews create more work for us. But, just bear with us for some time, until we feel comfortable enough with the material to let it through.

Once I drop the subject I tend not to revisit it as I see no point, but since you actually taught me about that other PFSRD site I'll make an exemption (hand on heart every time when something was linked it was the site I was linking, and since between it and AoN I got everything I needed I never looked further), so thanks for correcting that mistake.

This post will also be short since I still consider the matter closed I want to clear a few apparent misconceptions. While I'm glad people get use out of their PF feats, as mentioned I don't use them 1) because I forget to be honest and 2) I forget because I have most of 3.5 books and am swamped with info as is. And this is seriously starting to seem like I'm championing them while nothing could be further from the truth. If I were one of RFT's oldtimers PF feats wouldn't be allowed period, but considering I've been here since February I think such an ingrained rule is not for me to talk of removing.

So why do I open my mouth then? Steel mentioned that a place with approved Feats is woefully outdated and in the time since I was here there has been nothing noted approved or denied there, so (for reasons you've mentioned) it would be a bit ridiculous to expect Mod to go back and check everything. Steel apparently already has some of that covered anyway 😋 . My intention was not to start the Holy PF crusade, but to redo cataloging approved Feats. Yes, when it comes to Feats I don't care much do they come from Paizo or Dreamscared Press as long as they are widely used in PF games. Personally, I think they should be allowed to be presented with other Feats (merit thing). But what I wanted is a new or maybe renewed way of cataloging them. As an example of that doing well, @Delia2531 mentioned that I should check if are Goliaths still LA+1, it took me 5 minutes since that area is so well cataloged.

So to finish, it's not that I expect Mods to go hunting for wild Feats but simply do something similar for them. Open the spoiler named PF Feats and start updating it with Feats Steel already found and others just add one by one as they come. Yes, it will take some time, but eventually rather than wasting time here you will be able to point to that folder if someone wants to see if Feat allowed or not. In the long run, I think it would save on Mod time, with only rare Feats landing under their feet here and there. And now I really would like to decouple myself from this issue.

 

Grudge

Grudge

7 hours ago, Blue Jay said:

As far as I can tell, Deadly Agility is not on either of the two sites we allow you to use.

And just to clear, when someone says "SRD", they're referring to the official System Reference Document. The website you're pulling from (www.d20pfsrd.org) is not an official Paizo website: it's run by the Open Gaming Network, whose entire mission is apparently to aggregate RPG content that isn't protected by US copyright laws.

Allowing content on merit alone sounds wonderful, until you're the person who has to do the actual evaluations. It's a lot of work. I know players will be disappointed when our decisions sometimes seem arbitrary, but the bottom line is that we just can't be reviewing content from all across the internet. We have to limit the scope of things somehow, for our own sanity.

We're all adults with adult jobs that take up most of our time. For example, I work on a research farm, and I have a 30-minute commute. When I get home, I have 2 kids and other things to deal with at home. And, I run a real-life 5e campaign on Tuesday nights. So I only have a couple hours a day that I can spend on RFT. So far, this post has taken me 30 minutes to write. I still have 3 missions to update, 2 new character submissions waiting for reviews, and at least two or three content requests in this thread that I haven't gotten to yet; and I've already used up a quarter of my RFT time for today.

So as moderators, we have a vested interest in limiting the amount of content we allow, and restricting by source or publisher is just really convenient for us. I would love to allow other sources, because there's cool stuff everywhere, and stuff that I'd love to try out myself. I even have a spreadsheet where I went ahead of the RLA people and reassigned LAs on my own for every monster in all official sources that I have access to (there are over 4000 entries on the sheet). I would love to offer that for RFT. I would love to use books like Bastards and Bloodlines or Advanced Bestiary (both from Green Ronin), and to put out some RLAs for those; but it's just a whole lot of work, and it's not easy anymore, now that I'm a grown-up with a grown-up job.

This thing where we review individual Pathfinder feats is our way of trying to limit the flow of unfamiliar content. I doubt that it will be sustainable for us in the long run, because individual feat reviews create more work for us. But, just bear with us for some time, until we feel comfortable enough with the material to let it through.

Once I drop the subject I tend not to revisit it as I see no point, but since you actually taught me about that other PFSRD site I'll make an exemption (hand on heart every time when something was linked it was the site I was linking, and since between it and AoN I got everything I needed I never looked further), so thanks for correcting that mistake.

This post will also be short since I still consider the matter closed I want to clear a few apparent misconceptions. While I'm glad people get use out of their PF feats, as mentioned I don't use them 1) because I forget to be honest and 2) I forget because I have most of 3.5 books and am swamped with info as is. And this is seriously starting to seem like I'm championing them while nothing could be further from the truth. If I were one of RFT's oldtimers PF feats wouldn't be allowed period, but considering I've been here since February I think such an ingrained rule is not for me to talk of removing.

So why do I open my mouth then? Steel mentioned that a place with approved Feats is woefully outdated and in the time since I was here there has been nothing noted approved or denied there, so (for reasons you've mentioned) it would be a bit ridiculous to expect Mod to go back and check everything. Steel apparently already has some of that covered anyway 😋 ) My intention was not to start the Holy PF crusade, but to redo cataloging approved Feats. Yes, when it comes to Feats I don't care much do they come from Paizo or Dreamscared Press as long as they are widely used in PF games. Personally, I think they should be allowed to be presented with other Feats (merit thing). But what I wanted is a new or maybe renewed way of cataloging them. As an example of that doing well, @Delia2531 mentioned that I should check if are Goliaths still LA+1, it took me 5 minutes since that area is so well cataloged.

So to finish, it's not that I expect Mods to go hunting for wild Feats but simply do something similar for them. Open the spoiler named PF Feats and start updating it with Feats Steel already found and others just add one by one as they come. Yes, it will take some time, but eventually rather than wasting time here you will be able to point to that folder if someone wants to see if Feat allowed or not. In the long run, I think it would save on Mod time, with only rare Feats landing under their feet here and there. And now I really would like to decouple myself from this issue.

 

Grudge

Grudge

5 hours ago, Blue Jay said:

As far as I can tell, Deadly Agility is not on either of the two sites we allow you to use.

And just to clear, when someone says "SRD", they're referring to the official System Reference Document. The website you're pulling from (www.d20pfsrd.org) is not an official Paizo website: it's run by the Open Gaming Network, whose entire mission is apparently to aggregate RPG content that isn't protected by US copyright laws.

Allowing content on merit alone sounds wonderful, until you're the person who has to do the actual evaluations. It's a lot of work. I know players will be disappointed when our decisions sometimes seem arbitrary, but the bottom line is that we just can't be reviewing content from all across the internet. We have to limit the scope of things somehow, for our own sanity.

We're all adults with adult jobs that take up most of our time. For example, I work on a research farm, and I have a 30-minute commute. When I get home, I have 2 kids and other things to deal with at home. And, I run a real-life 5e campaign on Tuesday nights. So I only have a couple hours a day that I can spend on RFT. So far, this post has taken me 30 minutes to write. I still have 3 missions to update, 2 new character submissions waiting for reviews, and at least two or three content requests in this thread that I haven't gotten to yet; and I've already used up a quarter of my RFT time for today.

So as moderators, we have a vested interest in limiting the amount of content we allow, and restricting by source or publisher is just really convenient for us. I would love to allow other sources, because there's cool stuff everywhere, and stuff that I'd love to try out myself. I even have a spreadsheet where I went ahead of the RLA people and reassigned LAs on my own for every monster in all official sources that I have access to (there are over 4000 entries on the sheet). I would love to offer that for RFT. I would love to use books like Bastards and Bloodlines or Advanced Bestiary (both from Green Ronin), and to put out some RLAs for those; but it's just a whole lot of work, and it's not easy anymore, now that I'm a grown-up with a grown-up job.

This thing where we review individual Pathfinder feats is our way of trying to limit the flow of unfamiliar content. I doubt that it will be sustainable for us in the long run, because individual feat reviews create more work for us. But, just bear with us for some time, until we feel comfortable enough with the material to let it through.

Once I drop the subject I tend not to revisit it as I see no point, but since you actually taught me about that other PFSRD site I'll make an exemption (hand on heart every time when something was linked it was the site I was linking, and since between it and AoN I got everything I needed I never looked further), so thanks for correcting that mistake.

This post will also be short since I still consider the matter closed I want to clear a few apparent misconceptions. While I'm glad people get use out of their PF feats, as mentioned I don't use them 1) because I forget to be honest and 2) I forget because I have most of 3.5 books and am swamped with info as is. And this is seriously starting to seem like I'm championing them while nothing could be further from the truth. If I were one of RFT's oldtimers PF feats wouldn't be allowed period, but considering I've been here since February I think such an ingrained rule is not for me to talk of removing.

So why do I open my mouth then? Steel mentioned that a place with approved Feats is woefully outdated and in the time since I was here there has been nothing approved or denied, so (for reasons you've mentioned) it would be a bit ridiculous to expect Mod to go back and check everything. Steel apparently already has some of that covered anyway 😋 ) My intention was not to start the Holy PF crusade, but to redo cataloging approved Feats. Yes, when it comes to Feats I don't care much do they come from Paizo or Dreamscared Press as long as they are widely used in PF games. Personally, I think they should be allowed to be presented with other Feats (merit thing). But what I wanted is a new or maybe renewed way of cataloging them. As an example of that doing well, @Delia2531 mentioned that I should check if are Goliaths still LA+1, it took me 5 minutes since that area is so well cataloged.

So to finish, it's not that I expect Mods to go hunting for wild Feats but simply do something similar for them. Open the spoiler named PF Feats and start updating it with Feats Steel already found and others just add one by one as they come. Yes, it will take some time, but eventually rather than wasting time here you will be able to point to that folder if someone wants to see if Feat allowed or not. In the long run, I think it would save on Mod time, with only rare Feats landing under their feet here and there. And now I really would like to decouple myself from this issue.

 

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