Ryfte Posted May 25, 2023 Clone Share Posted May 25, 2023 I just realized, no one has asked about whether we're using Fractional Base Bonuses or not... @Michael Are we using BAB and Saving Throw fractionals base bonuses or not? Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFred Posted May 25, 2023 Clone Share Posted May 25, 2023 One typically does, in gestalt, but it also makes no difference until L2 anyway. 🤷♂️ Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryfte Posted May 25, 2023 Clone Share Posted May 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, TheFred said: One typically does, in gestalt, but it also makes no difference until L2 anyway. 🤷♂️ I know, but some DM's/GM's simply don't. I'm likely planning on mixing a couple classes / prestige classes (if selected of course) simply to create the concept of the character. I want to be careful with BAB for a predominantly martial character due to that fact. The truth of the matter being that it really doesn't matter that much anyways with our Outsider HD being good BAB + all good Saves of course. I guess I'm just more curious than anything I suppose. 😄 Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 26, 2023 Author Clone Share Posted May 26, 2023 9 hours ago, Ryfte said: I just realized, no one has asked about whether we're using Fractional Base Bonuses or not... @Michael Are we using BAB and Saving Throw fractionals base bonuses or not? yes we are. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Warrior Posted May 26, 2023 Clone Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) @Michael In regards to sizes. I don't mind if chosen to play, staying at max Large. When picking a monster that is Huge, the ability scores are already taking into consideration the size increases, so when we stat them out over the ECL in monster class levels, growing in size is just space/reach and damage dice, but not stats/natural armor increases. Like my Abyssal Drake has a STR 29 at huge. If he was Medium, his strength would actually be 13. That brings to question. If we are capped at Large, do we still use the monster statblock for bonuses? Edited May 26, 2023 by Steel Warrior (see edit history) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 26, 2023 Author Clone Share Posted May 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, Steel Warrior said: @Michael In regards to sizes. I don't mind if chosen to play, staying at max Large. When picking a monster that is Huge, the ability scores are already taking into consideration the size increases, so when we stat them out over the ECL in monster class levels, growing in size is just space/reach and damage dice, but not stats/natural armor increases. Like my Abyssal Drake has a STR 29 at huge. If he was Medium, his strength would actually be 13. That brings to question. If we are capped at Large, do we still use the monster statblock for bonuses? Yes, the size adjustment thing is a bit of bookkeeping too far. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Warrior Posted May 27, 2023 Clone Share Posted May 27, 2023 I was curious. If a template changes you from Outsider to something else, does that negate you being a fiend? Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 28, 2023 Author Clone Share Posted May 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Steel Warrior said: I was curious. If a template changes you from Outsider to something else, does that negate you being a fiend? Yep. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryfte Posted May 28, 2023 Clone Share Posted May 28, 2023 Are we ignoring the "Type Pyramid" craziness? (for those using templates) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 28, 2023 Author Clone Share Posted May 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Ryfte said: Are we ignoring the "Type Pyramid" craziness? (for those using templates) I had rather hoped we were avoiding any type object craziness altogether, given my very clear regard of multi template creatures together with the whole concept of this game, which, I would have hoped, is pretty clear. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFred Posted May 28, 2023 Clone Share Posted May 28, 2023 The type pyramid, frankly, also doesn't make much sense, given that the very same book has a template for turning constructs into humans - something that it thinks shouldn't be possible. (And, later web articles and things from WotC have just ignored it) I did consider asking about a lichfiend, because that seems cool (and not against the spirit of the game) but went with something different anyway so didn't bother. 🙂 Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paladinred Posted May 31, 2023 Clone Share Posted May 31, 2023 Think Role play over Roll play, I hate it when you get to the combat and most players have +3 - +5ish then one person rolls a five and hits as they have +10 or something. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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