Valdimarian Posted July 8, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 8, 2022 Since Origins released half finished (I assume the other half is in Spheres of Guile...) there's mention of a "Extra Origin Talent feat" but no actual listing of it. Would it be safe to assume that such a feat would, like "Extra Combat Talent" or "Extra Magic Talent" be allowed to be taken multiple times? Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlawk Posted July 8, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Valdimarian said: Since Origins released half finished (I assume the other half is in Spheres of Guile...) there's mention of a "Extra Origin Talent feat" but no actual listing of it. Would it be safe to assume that such a feat would, like "Extra Combat Talent" or "Extra Magic Talent" be allowed to be taken multiple times? Quote Extra Origin Talent Benefit: You gain an additional origin talent. Special: This feat may be selected multiple times. The effects stack. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdimarian Posted July 8, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Warlawk said: Ok, so the feat does exist. But why was it put there? I'd have put it under General, or ideally waited until Spheres of Guile came out and revamped the site with a 4th Sphere Group entirely since there's several references to Guile in Origins, even though Guile isn't out yet. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalamb Posted July 8, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 8, 2022 Does that Extra Origin Talent feat mean a new Potent talent? and thus potentially 2 new Auxiliary and one new Utility? Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFred Posted July 8, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 8, 2022 IIRC Ark ruled that for this game it just gives you a single, non-Phenomenal talent? I don't know if that means you get to trade up for Aux and Utility. I suspect that the feat is just meant to allow any single talent, which feels wrong, except that Phenomenals seem to be like Advanced/Legendary, they aren't actually any better for the most part and frankly most of them aren't worth a feat. But then, under normal rules you don't get so generous a trade for Potent to Auxiliary or Utility. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraziFuzzy Posted July 8, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 8, 2022 4 hours ago, TheFred said: IIRC Ark ruled that for this game it just gives you a single, non-Phenomenal talent? I don't know if that means you get to trade up for Aux and Utility. I suspect that the feat is just meant to allow any single talent, which feels wrong, except that Phenomenals seem to be like Advanced/Legendary, they aren't actually any better for the most part and frankly most of them aren't worth a feat. But then, under normal rules you don't get so generous a trade for Potent to Auxiliary or Utility. Phenomenal Talents are intended to be special cases, like legendary talents. Not necessarily better, but something that the devs feel should warrant gm approval on use. Not always because they are powerful, but often because they verge into the weird or ridiculous or they might negate certain assumed challenges, and therefore might not be desired in every campaign. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFred Posted July 8, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 8, 2022 Yeah, exactly, like Advanced and Legendary talents. I've found very few that I'd be willing to spend a feat on, frankly (of the decent ones, they all have prereqs - in this game some of those are cheaper so they become attractive again, but by base rules the one that just gives you a bonus feat seems like the best bet most of the time!). Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalamb Posted July 8, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 8, 2022 What I hoped for is trading in an ordinary Potent for two more Aux and one more Utility; those for the most part looked more fun. But there's one or two Potents that might be worth trying. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duqueen Posted July 9, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 9, 2022 As I am starting on writing the fluff for sir Winston, how much time do we have left? Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djacob91 Posted July 9, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Arklytte said: ... The deadline is still Sunday at midnight EST, ... Hmm..., looks like this version doesn't include the link to the original post. That's awkward. It was his most recent comment here. Edited July 9, 2022 by Djacob91 (see edit history) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arklytte Posted July 9, 2022 Author Clone Share Posted July 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Duqueen said: As I am starting on writing the fluff for sir Winston, how much time do we have left? Deadline is tomorrow (Sunday), Midnight EST. So, at the time of posting this, about 31.5 hours. 🙂 Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlotDevice Posted July 10, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) Is Trinity Warrior allowed (as a feat to boost 1 sphere)? Since the classes are banned I'm assuming it's banned too, but thought I'd check. Edited July 10, 2022 by PlotDevice (see edit history) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arklytte Posted July 10, 2022 Author Clone Share Posted July 10, 2022 Unfortunately, none of the Co7S content is allowed, unless explicitly allowed in the creation rules (ie Veilweaving). Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Warrior Posted July 10, 2022 Clone Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) @Arklytte If I missed this question. Is Hunter's Renewal going to be SU or EX? Second Question. I am interested in having a custom magic item. Instead of arrows, I would like them to be spears or javelins. Based on the 3.5 magic item Gloves of Endless Javelins (7,000 Gp) MIC. and then the Quiver of Anariel. A quiver of Anariel could be fashioned that produced basic arrows, masterwork arrows, or a range of magical arrows, at increasing costs: Regular arrows: 28,000 gp Masterwork arrows: 29,000 gp +1 arrows: 32,000 gp +2 arrows: 44,000 gp +3 arrows: 64,000 gp +4 arrows: 92,000 gp +5 arrows: 128,000 gp They could also have heads formed from special materials for extra cost, including adamantine (+6000 gp), alchemical silver (+200 gp), or cold iron (+4005). I would like to have +1 Adamantine javelins. The gloves already give a +1 to the javelins, but I don't mind adding or splitting the cost. (Cost could be something like 7,000 + 32,000 (+1), +6000 (adamantine): 45,000 Gp. ((7000 - 2000)(subtract +1) + 32,000 (has +1), + 6,000 (adamantine)) 43,000 Gp. My character is pretty much self reliant, so he only would have the above and a Boulder Bag 3,000 Gp. If I am outside the range of the anti-magic, I can draw and use them, and even if I throw the adamantine javelin and it enters an antimagic field, they would lose the +1 to damage, but still be adamantine. Edited July 10, 2022 by Steel Warrior (see edit history) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arklytte Posted July 11, 2022 Author Clone Share Posted July 11, 2022 That would be fine SW. Custom/combined magic items are fine. You just have to pay the full price, rather than the crafting (half) price. At a glance, the math looks good. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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