thesloth Posted May 2 Clone Share Posted May 2 Posted actions. Included the concentration check. I have a plan if Kendrick survives this round. I intend to drop a silence spell while they dig out. It won't affect them in the shell, so when they burst out by probably using magic, I think they will not be expecting it and possibly waste another round or two of spells. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parody Posted May 2 Clone Share Posted May 2 I was gonna wait to see if Omegang would dispel the Spiritual Ally successfully. Also, they seem to be largely monks. Is there someway we can magically form armor on them so they lose their monk abilities? :) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesloth Posted May 2 Clone Share Posted May 2 Not with anything I can do. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parody Posted May 2 Clone Share Posted May 2 Just to be clear - we have no Line of Sight and no Line of Effect against anyone except the Spiritual Ally (which we can't physically hurt) and Jalabar, correct? And Kendrick is providing flanking against Jalabar for Edmund? Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerBoy Posted May 5 Author Clone Share Posted May 5 The Wall of Ectoplasm effectively removes Izenfen, Seraphina, and Krekie as targets. Kendrick is not flanking because he's prone and not threatening Jalabar. (I didn't see in the text where Kendrick stood up so I'm assuming he's casting while prone, which he can do.) The DC of the CL check for the Spiritual Ally is 29, so Aranaias successfully dispelled the Ally. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerBoy Posted May 5 Author Clone Share Posted May 5 Oh, hm. @thesloth does Kendrick want to form a sphere? Because they're flying, if you make the Wall of Ectoplasm a hemisphere they'll just fly under it. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesloth Posted May 5 Clone Share Posted May 5 Oh then sphere. I didn't realize they were flying. And yes Kendrick stayed prone. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycar Posted May 5 Clone Share Posted May 5 Edmund can only use feinting to sneak attack without a flanking buddy, but he still has Golden Swipe ready to both attack and remove Jalabar from Kendrick's side maybe? Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegang Posted May 5 Clone Share Posted May 5 Can Duncan get to Jalabar? Or do we not want to bunch and provide a target for a Fireball? Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesloth Posted May 6 Clone Share Posted May 6 There's no save against the wall. They won't be able to attack us this round if you want to close up on Jalabar. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parody Posted May 6 Clone Share Posted May 6 Does Golden Swipe allow you to move the target into hazards? Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycar Posted May 6 Clone Share Posted May 6 I don't see why not? It even explicitly triggers AoOs from allies. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerBoy Posted May 6 Author Clone Share Posted May 6 The way Golden Swipe is written you could ostensibly force your enemy off of a cliff. That said, Telekinesis is a 5th level spell and if we use that as an exemplar, you can use a combat maneuver you attack as normal but you're trying to fling your target they get a save. I think it makes sense that if you use the ability as written there's no save but if you're putting your target into some sort of harm aside from an ally's AoO they'll get some sort of save, probably Reflex, to negate the movement. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycar Posted May 6 Clone Share Posted May 6 Fair enough. How to determine the save DC though? Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerBoy Posted May 7 Author Clone Share Posted May 7 Unless someone has a better idea, I'd say it'd be similar to the way spells look. Golden Swipe is a 4th level maneuver so if Duncan's Strength is 24 (+7) it'd be DC 21. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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