Spacesong Posted January 8 Clone Share Posted January 8 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Vedast said: His STR is 17 (+2). So +2 (STR) +1 (specialization) = +3 total with the long axe. With a hand axe, his ATK/DMG bonus is +2. Thown, it would be +0/+2, though I'm not sure, whether STR bonus to thrown weapons for damage (only) is a AD&D thing or OSE or B/X also?). Does this help? Ok! I see it in the book now. The Ability Scores section cleared up my confusion on what the full attack formula was. So to clarify I'm understanding: specializing in spear would allow missile attacks be done with a +2 since that's a DEX attack roll and +1 bonus damage since damage is based on STR. Edited January 8 by Spacesong (see edit history) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedast Posted January 8 Clone Share Posted January 8 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Spacesong said: Ok! I see it in the book now. The Ability Scores section cleared up my confusion on what the full attack formula was. So to clarify I'm understanding: specializing in spear would allow missile attacks be done with a +2 and bonus damage since that's a DEX attack roll. I understand why Necrotic Gnome did it, but having the two formats, the boxed sets and the 'tomes' can make it difficult to exchange information by page references when the two parties have the different sets! 😀 Specialization provides a flat +1 to ATK and +1 DMG to the weapon. That's a flat rider on top of how STR or DEX affects the melee/thrown/ranged weapon ATK and DMG. Edited January 8 by Vedast (see edit history) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacesong Posted January 8 Clone Share Posted January 8 Just now, Vedast said: I understand why Necrotic Gnome did it, but having the two formats, the boxed sets and the 'tomes' can make it difficult to exchange information by page references. Specialization provides a flat +1 to ATK and +1 DMG to the weapon. That's a flat rider on top of how STR or DEX affects the melee/thrown/ranged weapon ATK and DMG. Yeah, I found the damage roll rules after posting my clarification and edited the above. lol The organization on rules that relate to one another is a lil' all over. haha Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedast Posted January 8 Clone Share Posted January 8 I think we need @prophane to specify whether STR applies to thrown weapon damage. I couldn't find any specific reference in the CF or AF books. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacesong Posted January 8 Clone Share Posted January 8 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Vedast said: I think we need @prophane to specify whether STR applies to thrown weapon damage. I couldn't find any specific reference in the CF or AF books. Says this in the Players Tome. EDIT: Further review -- if I'm throwing my spear at short range I'd get an additional +1 to the throw. Cool! Edited January 8 by Spacesong (see edit history) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixi Posted January 8 Clone Share Posted January 8 (edited) Ozemur the Skald Armor Class 14Chainmail | HP: 15/15 | Abilities STR 9 INT 14 WIS 9 DEX 11 CON 10 CHA 17 +1 | Saving ThrowsDeath & Poison 13 Wands 14 Paralysis or Petrification 13 Breath Attacks 16 Spells, Rods, Staves 15 WIS vs Magic 0 |WeaponsCrossbow 1d6; Missile (5’–80’ / 81’–160’ / 161’–240’), Reload, Slow, Two-handed Hand Axe 1d6; Melee, Missile +1 / -1 to hit (5’–10’ / 11’–20’ / 21’–30’) | Skills & AbilitiesAnti Charm - allies within 30' immune to sound based effects if playing and singing music Enchantment - can fascinate 6HD of people within 30', after 1 Turn they may be charmed Bard Lore - 2 in 6 chance to know tales or legends Spells - may memorize 2 spells per day from the following list: Animal Friendship, Detect Danger, Entangle, Faerie Fire, Invisibility to Animals, Locate Plant or Animal, Predict Weather, Speak with Animals Languages: Norse & English | EncountersInitiative: +0 NPC Reaction: +1 | ItemsChainmail Handaxe Crossbow + 20 bolts Lyre Backpack: tinderbox, 1 torch, waterskin, 2 days ration |MoneyGP: 5 SP: CP: EP: PP: IC stuff here. OOC OOC stuff goes here. Just testing the frame. Edited January 8 by Dixi (see edit history) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophane Posted January 8 Author Clone Share Posted January 8 Looks good Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cailano Posted January 8 Clone Share Posted January 8 Actually guys, I think I am going to bow out. The game looks super fun but I don't think I'm going to have enough time for it. Have fun! @prophane thanks for the opportunity to join, I appreciate it! Good luck with the campaign. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacesong Posted January 8 Clone Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, cailano said: Actually guys, I think I am going to bow out. The game looks super fun but I don't think I'm going to have enough time for it. Have fun! @prophane thanks for the opportunity to join, I appreciate it! Good luck with the campaign. Sad to see ya have to dip out, but totally understandable not wanting to take on too much. I appreciate the consideration for everyone else. FWIW -- it was one of your threads I found randomly via a google search that made me want to join MW! I was excited for the chance to play a game w/ you. I'm sure it'll come around and happen eventually especially if we both have an interest in OSR style games. Take care, duder! Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophane Posted January 9 Author Clone Share Posted January 9 5 hours ago, cailano said: Actually guys, I think I am going to bow out. The game looks super fun but I don't think I'm going to have enough time for it. Have fun! Bummer, sorry to hear that but I totally understand and appreciate it. Some other time, then. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophane Posted January 9 Author Clone Share Posted January 9 For the rest of you, I'll read through the above stats discussion when I get home and eat dinner. Then I will get this party STARTED! Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophane Posted January 9 Author Clone Share Posted January 9 (edited) 21 hours ago, Vedast said: I think we need @prophane to specify whether STR applies to thrown weapon damage. I couldn't find any specific reference in the CF or AF books. Yes STR modifies melee to hit and damage. DEX modifies ranged to hit. No attribute modifies ranged damage in this ruleset. Weapon Specialization (2 proficiency slots from a martial character) gives +1 to hit and damage for that weapon. Ranged attacks at short range give +1 to hit, medium range is no modifier, long range is -1 to hit Edited January 9 by prophane (see edit history) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedast Posted January 9 Clone Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, prophane said: Yes STR modifies melee to hit and damage. DEX modifies ranged to hit. No attribute modifies ranged damage in this ruleset. Weapon Specialization (2 proficiency slots from a martial character) gives +1 to hit and damage for that weapon. Ranged attacks at short range give +1 to hit, medium range is no modifier, long range is -1 to hit 👍 Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophane Posted January 9 Author Clone Share Posted January 9 Personally I like STR to modify all damage, but we'll be sticking as close to the OSE rules as possible. I generally prefer a much more complex rule set (which is why I play GURPS) but that's not for here and now Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacesong Posted January 9 Clone Share Posted January 9 38 minutes ago, prophane said: Then I will get this party STARTED! Aw yeah! Who want's their classes THAC0 matrix screen shot for them to celebrate? 😂 Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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