hoverfrog Posted November 9, 2023 Author Clone Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just moving this here: 12 hours ago, Vedast said: GM: As an aside, some of us tested the constraint placed on us by Ekul (e.g. Razvan thought of trying to take Ekul's blood, but couldn't will it; Sal did something similar IIRC). But did he get the sense of control from Ekul that would be similar to common legend between a master vampire and a slave (not that Razvan has any actual knowledge of how that works!)? From the IC interaction earlier, I think Razvan would believe himself more of a free agent: I thought to ask so that I can write from the perspective that the character might actually have (whether he decides to be truthful or deceptive about it). Having no frame of reference, it is hard to tell. Whatever you think is the best option for how your character will behave. If you believe it is the same or different then do that. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedast Posted November 9, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, hoverfrog said: Just moving this here: Having no frame of reference, it is hard to tell. Whatever you think is the best option for how your character will behave. If you believe it is the same or different then do that. I was trying to navigate the two bits of information we have from Ekul: geased you to treat the Esoteric Order of the Palatine Eye as your masters, to obey their edicts, and to do no harm to them. "My magic does not control your actions but it does limit you from harming me or the order. Thus, I had Razvan speak truthfully as far as he knows it: he wasn't created a vampire by any 'ordinary' means (i.e. he's not a "spawn"). I take this and the Geas description (https://2e.aonprd.com/Rituals.aspx?ID=12) that Razvan (and the others) can be compelled to act or avoid actions, but are not "controlled" in terms of being remote sensors for a master (such as our interlocuter suggested). Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allefgib Posted November 10, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 10, 2023 Are you asking for informtion Vedast that as playeres we shouldn't have? Razvan knows what he knows :) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedast Posted November 10, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, allefgib said: Are you asking for informtion Vedast that as playeres we shouldn't have? Razvan knows what he knows :) Are you suggesting that Players never have to inquire of the GM about game information that their characters might know that the Player does not? In this specific case, Razvan might be aware of some aspects regarding the nature of the Geas by experience that hasn't been related in game. Edited November 10, 2023 by Vedast (see edit history) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoverfrog Posted November 10, 2023 Author Clone Share Posted November 10, 2023 Player and character knowledge are often separate. There's no harm in asking. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allefgib Posted November 10, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 10, 2023 No worries. I'm probably just more biased to a lighter touch. You're right - no harm in asking. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allefgib Posted November 15, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 15, 2023 Always poke the bear :) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allefgib Posted November 16, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 16, 2023 Hand wave the conversation finishing up and take us to the action if that's your preference @hoverfrog Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedast Posted November 21, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 21, 2023 I thought I would explain why Razvan is being so specific in the narrative with the second weapon, that is, why he is trying to keep it in hand unless absolutely needed (as in climbing a ladder). The feat Double Slice allows one to combine two Strikes: it uses two Actions, but they both kick in before MAP and, importantly in this case, damage from the two Strikes combines before any Resistances. Of course, one has to hit, but +10/+10 is much better than +10/+6 (two single strikes with agile weapons) and, if both hit, the target's resistance only counts once, not twice as with x2 normal Strikes. So if he has both weapons in hand, he can use one Stride and then the Double Strike. But if he has to Interact to draw the second weapon, then he cannot Stride and use DS. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoverfrog Posted November 21, 2023 Author Clone Share Posted November 21, 2023 You can look forward to getting gloves of storing in the future to solve your drawing two weapons at once problem. I still think its odd that Quick draw usnt a fighter feat. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedast Posted November 22, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 22, 2023 If it would help, Razvan will just lead the way up. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allefgib Posted November 24, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 24, 2023 Decisive action always helps :) Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VennDygrem Posted November 27, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 27, 2023 Hoping to get a post up soon, unfortunately been dealing with family as part of a long holiday weekend, here. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedast Posted November 30, 2023 Clone Share Posted November 30, 2023 In case it was lost in the prose, Razvan did move into the growroom (whilst Seeking) to allow the rest of the party to follow. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VennDygrem Posted December 7, 2023 Clone Share Posted December 7, 2023 Sorry, been busy with end of year stuff. I should be able to get a post up tomorrow. Name xDiceName xDiceResult xDiceString xDiceRolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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